I don't even know what I did but the GUI modify user element will not loa= d=20 user info now. First I corrected all the problems we were discussing thro= ugh=20 the week (only God knows how that was accomplished) and then I put a new = user=20 on. Then when I tried to talk to myself through my users I got the messag= e=20 that I didn;t have the appropriate permission to do that. I then Went in= to=20 one terminal window with a 'mesg y' but when I attempted that with the ot= her=20 user it said I couldn't do that. So I rebooted in hopes that I could do i= t if=20 I started the system as that user. But that did not help. Instead things = got=20 worse! Now It won't log me in graphicly (I can handle that) and it won't=20 start KDE automatically either. But what I can't handle is is the reason = for=20 this mailing (user elemnt thingy). I just thought to myself that i would = type=20 that it seems as if I will have to bring the box to the next PLUG meeting= =20 when I realized that I my new job won't allow for that to happen. Any ideas what i could do? --=20 :-)~Mike~(-: