Michael> Thanks Lynn. Michael> What does this mean? Michael> [root@localhost bmike1]# groupdel Downloadtest Michael> groupdel: error removing shadow group entry Michael> [root@localhost bmike1]# It means it didn't happen. In your mail below you said the group name was "downloads" not "Downloadtest". Could this possibly be the source of your problem? Remember too that Unix is case-sensitive. The string "Xyz" is not the same as "xyz". Furthermore, although it's not forbidden to do otherwise, it's standard practice to use lower case login and group names. I highly recommend following that practice. Michael> On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:37 pm, Lynn David Newton wrote: Michael> remove it and then attempt to add it but the Michael> maCHINE WON'T let me. It says that I have a Michael> group with to similar of a name. I look in Michael> my groups listing and there is a group Michael> called 'downloads' >> >> groupdel downloads >> >> But first consult the man page for groupdel(8) because >> there are some minor considerations. >> >> Your situation suggests that the original user was >> removed improperly or incompletely. Most Unix/Linux >> systems these days are set up to create a group by the >> same name as the user and make that the new user's >> default group. If the user's name is simply whacked out >> of the password file, the group name remains, and you >> can't create a new user with the same name because the >> old group name remains. But groupdel, which is not >> needed often, will get rid of a group for you. Michael> -- Michael> :-)~Mike~(-: Michael> --------------------------------------------------- Michael> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Michael> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: Michael> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Lynn