-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 tell you what... can you try to see it from my perspective here? lets see: I get $572 a month in disability. from that, I remove $300.00 in rent leaving me with $272.00 ok, now I have to pay out my internet costs ($55.00). that leaves me with $217.00. ok, now from this amount, I remove the costs I have for food (roughly $150.00 a month for good food, not that junk stuff). so far, I have about $67.00 left. I remove $20.00 from that for my health insurance (you can thank medicare for not allowing an increase, which means I am now saddled with that amount I didn't have to pay before). this leaves me with $47.00 each month. how am I supposed to pay even the lowest base membership with mandrake on this? you know what that $47.00 is for me? thats either some new clothes, new shoes, transportation expenses (it costs to ride the bus or take dial-a-ride). after everything gets said and done, I'm lucky I even have enough left by the end of the month to even enjoy a movie (not that often). pile on all of this the fact that I have been trying to find work for more than 3 years in the IT sector and have had no luck, period. So, pardon if I sound a bit frustrated. in any case, I am one of the "lower class" people you hear about. can't get work, can't get off disability and can't even afford to live (but I still try). Technomage On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:13 pm, you wrote: > If they allowed joining for a month or three, you could download those > commercial apps they've shelled out the fees for and they'd take a loss on > it. A year's silver membership covers the majority of the commercial apps > you're likely to download. StarOffice alone eats up over $70 of the $120, > leaving them with less than a standard member's dues for the year ($60). > I'm sure they get some high volume deal from Sun, but it still eats into > the $120 you pay for silver. > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:44 pm, technomage wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > tat isn't my point.. > > > > I'd like to have an "affordable" solution to getting apps that aren't > > included on the standard downloads edition. I wouldn't mind paying out > > $20 or $30 for a short term subscription (like 2 or 3 months) but to have > > to pay for a year at $200+? > > > > if they made it a bit less price intensive, or offered short subscription > > terms, they wouldn't be having such a problem with their club as it is.. > > > > Technomage > > > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:26 pm, you wrote: > > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:12 pm, technomage wrote: > > > > I don't have a problem with their club per se. its the prices they > > > > charge for it that I have a concern with... I don't have that kind of > > > > cash to be paying out at once for a year subscription! > > > > > > Then don't. Nobody forces you to join their club. > > > > > > I do have the cash, so I don't have a problem with it. > > > > - -- > > I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or > > numbered! > > My life is my own - No. 6 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE+OHVnn/usgigAaLcRAv1EAJ9pjYQhmykO4AgVF3RvpvIEt+M9awCfQOOg > > J45L1GskoyIFBqYGhCDb4rw= > > =h3cQ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss - -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+OiY9n/usgigAaLcRAuFoAJ449ZxTKJJONex5VjN6hKOO5EFq1wCfWmVQ yZN0DEjlglEAW7tINJnCWYM= =Jbzk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----