my favorites are the ones that ask for more experience that the product h=
as=20
been out, for example:

mcse in windows2k needed - 5 years experience (huh?)
8 yrs experience with Netware 5.x and 6.x
C# programmer, 4 yrs experience with website and transaction experience

and my personal favorite ( though a poor attempt I'm sure):

WANTED:
Need Engineer Level II with ccnp, mcse, and mcne that has HPUX, AIX, OS/4=
00,=20
Microsoft, novell experience, 5 million years experience each to help dev=
elop=20
network.  must be fluent in C#, Java, C++, VB, RPG, Scripting, Perl, Pyth=
on,=20
ASP, Pascal.  Familiarity with creating new network OSs that run on route=
rs,=20
x86, MIPs, RISC, CISC, and flash architectures using assembly, hex, and=20
binary a plus.  Must be able to lead a team of supervisors with the bigge=
st=20
project ever thought of by man.  Will report to CIO, CEO, CFO, CTO, COO, =
and=20
every other member of management. Extra hours on weekends and holidays, m=
ust=20
be willing to travel 125% of the time, and telecommuting the other 50% of=
 the=20
time.  Must be proficient with notepad, typewriter, word processor,=20
dictation, shorthand, Word, Excel, and peeing in the snow.  No benefits f=
or=20
first 3650 days.  Stock options available day 1 for price of paper printe=
d=20
on.  Telecommunications include Requires understanding of Data Infrastruc=
ture=20
installation - WAN, Router installation facilitation with multiple vendor=
s=20
and site contacts. Communication of prework followup, implementation upda=
tes=20
(site surveys, LEC work, installs; individual inquiries from site operati=
ons=20
and Project Managers. Clients: Telecommunication staff: clarification of=20
prework, notification of LEC and Telsource visits, inside wiring issues. =
Do=20
status updates & database updates on install.  PhD required, or Masters a=
nd 2=20
years experience, or BS and 4 years experience, or Associates and 6 years=
=20
experience, or any amount of experience qualifying individual to competen=
tly=20
fulfill position.  Salary DOE


any help with tweaking this ad would be appreciated, it's probably going =
to=20
flood the job boards shortly and we want to make sure we get the right=20
people. :-P


Anthony

On Wednesday 08 January 2003 11:43 am, David Huerta wrote:
> You know, its funny how most real tech jobs require "experience" in
> previous tech jobs will all now require "experience" in previous tech
> jobs, etc.  Where can one begin "experience" if they can't even apply a=
t a
> job due to lack of "experience?"  Just a little side rant...
>
> > got this, anyone interested help yourself
> >
> > anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >  Our client is looking for someone that has at least 4
> >  years experience as a Pre-sales engineer  (technical expert deliveri=
ng
> > technical demonstrations/presentations to C-level executives) with an
> > expertise background in  SECURITY  products  (Checkpoint, Gauntlet,
> > Cisco Pix etc.) .  This person must have at least 2 years experience =
as
> > a hands-on network security engineer prior to becoming a Pre-sales
> > engineer.
> >
> > =09The job description is below  for your review.   It pays a base of
> > 75-90k
> >  plus 20-40k bonus.
> >
> > =09I would be so grateful if you could pass this along to anyone that=
 you
> > might
> >  know is currently looking for a new opportunity or has recently lost
> > their job  that meets the qualifications. The client is ready to
> > interview and have someone start ASAP.
> >
> > =09If you have any questions or if there is anything I can do for you=
,
> > please
> >  do not hesitate to give me a call.
> >
> > =09Thank you for your time.
> >
> > =09Take Care,
> >
> > Alicia Nance
> > Account Manager
> > Venturi Technology Partners
> > 15455 N. Dallas Pkwy., Suite 300
> > Addison, TX 75001
> > 972-980-0000  x106 (Work)
> > 972-392-0035  (Fax)
> > 972-768-7633 (Mobile)
> > anance@venturipartners.com
> > www.venturipartners.com
> >
> >
> >
> > MUST have excellent work history.
> >
> > Candidates must exhibit a high degree of professionalism, customer
> > service,
> >  and enthusiasm. Your 4+ years demonstrated and applicable experience
> > will qualify you to be responsible for delivering high level
> > presentations and demonstrations  on Security products, while assisti=
ng
> > the sales organization in the completion of the sales cycle.
> > Responsibilities include acting as a technical network security liais=
on
> > to the customer, while interacting with multiple departments within t=
he
> > organization.
> >
> > Candidates must have 4+ years of experience as an IT practitioner, wi=
th
> > at
> >  least 2 of those years in Network Security technology experience in =
the
> > Enterprise Management space. Must have a strong attention to detail,
> > excellent analytical skills and strong communication skills.
> >
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