Patrick- thank you, i'm a few steps closer. tho i'm still a little lost. > > Copy the above into your /etc/aliases file and run newaliases >> newaliases > /etc/aliases: 51 aliases, longest 49 bytes, 708 bytes total > ok.. i think i got that.. had to cd over to /usr/bin first tho /etc/aliases: 55 aliases, longest 52 bytes, 1067 bytes total got a prob with this tho: i dont understand what all this stuff does. anyway, i added all this stuff to httpd.conf: > # > # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. > # > > ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ > Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ > > Options +FollowSymlinks > > > # > # Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your > server's > # name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page > (recommended). > # RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo > RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo > when i called up mydomain/mailman i recieved: Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'. now what? thanx- DL