wl> According to my O'Reilly "HTML: The Definitive wl> Guide," -- With all due respect to O'Reilly, the greatest publisher of technical books on the planet, my impression of "HTML: The Definitive Guide" is that it is one of the worst books on the subject I have ever seen -- badly written, badly organized, with poor examples, and many things in it that are downright wrong. I say that having bought it and used it myself until the pages fell out. Somehow I managed to learn what I needed to know despite it. In fairness, I will say that I have what was no doubt an earlier version of the book, written before the newer HTML standards came out. I no longer consult the O'Reilly Guide for anything if I want to get good information. I use the W3C's HTML 4.01 Specification, which is available from w3.org in PDF. As far as using a DOCTYPE string, which has nothing to do with HTML itself: If you don't care about standards or how your code is rendered or understood, then by all means save yourself a line of typing. If I did not use DOCTYPE strings I wouldn't be able to use pgml/sgml/xml-mode in XEmacs, which is capable of doing all sorts of language-specific tricks, including code parsing, syntax checking, indentation, fontification, and other nice tricks. Without that I might as well just get Windows and use Notepad. Except I'd have to pay money for that, and XEmacs is nuclear powered and free. It's been my experience that most computer literate people find that following standards is by and large beneficial and advantageous rather than an annoying inconvenience. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ