I have a confession to make: twice, two nights ago, I was celebrating watching windows boot successfully. Now, the back fill: it wasn't my laptop and I had just shoved windows down to just 2G and put linux on the other 2G. I wanted to move away from a floppy boot to linux but didn't know if the RH installer would 'save' the windows install or not, since I didn't want to figure out how to get windows to become sane while "in windows" if it lost window's boot. So, basically, between a remembered HOWTO that says dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/hda-bs bs=512 count=1 and some assorted other partition 512 byte backups, I was in business when my first go at grub installation from the command line. When it didn't go clean, I floppy'd to linux, restored the appropriate boot sector, and whamo, windows was back. One cheer. The system wasn't corrupted so bad I couldn't return the laptop in the condition I found it in, give or take 2G. Eventually, when I figured out everything, the second cheer as I could now floppyless boot to linux or windows. Out of curioisty, does anyone know of a present laptop that's got an onboard working mouse-wheely thingy working under linux? The Sony NVR23 has a wheely, but the google'd web page said that most everything worked (including the winmodem!) also said he couldn't find the appropriate configs for the onboard mouse wheel to work. David