Thanks Bill, I also like the first part there about how to treat my new "kid". I intend to move my equipment into a small office and rearrange it all then so maybe I can get a spare monitor soon and leave it hooked up but for now, due to room and wife I will have to use webmin to monitor it. Thanks again for the info. I have lurked on this list for some time now and I am impressed with the help and support that is given here. I intend to make it to a meeting one of these times, if my schedule lets me, so maybe I can meet some of you then. C-ya later, Cliff