ok, I've been reading what I can of the rant about proper nettiquette of late. IMHO, it is simply easier to send plain text unless the circumstances require otherwise. However, wouldn't it be better to send html as an attached document instead of imbedding it right smack in the place I need to read? All those HTML tags are visible in kmail (and some don't translate well). mind you, I don't want to appear as a faq nazi or a netcop, but you have to consider the audience. in my case, I am a minority of possibly 5 on this list who are visually impaireddealing with hard coded html on poorly designed sites is one thing, but I'd rather not have to deal with it here too (and why should I have to create a filter to filter it out? Thats not my job!). so, for those arguing both points, have a little consideration of who else may be reading the list here (via the list or google of whatever search engine trips their trigger). are we going to present ourselves in a professional manner, or are we going to behave like a bunch of spoiled kids, have a flame war and disband (a lot like what happened to both the amiga and commodore users groups of a few years back). comments appreciated. live chat at pretorian.ath.cx:6667 or pcman.ath.cx:6667 thanks. Technomage -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6