On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 14:12, Phil Mattison wrote: > As I expected, lots of folks disagreed with my assertion that > too many updates are a bad thing. I agree that updates are essential > for some users, and would not suggest eliminating them. > Still, there are many users for whom the only updates are new > releases of Windows. That happens once every couple of years, > and that is too often for some. We may look down our noses at > such illiterati, but they still represent the bulk of the consumer market. > What I would like to see is a level of ease-of-use closer to that > offered by Windows. I just bought a copy of RedHat 8.0 to upgrade > from 7.2, but I suspect I will have to start from the disk partition > step and repeat the entire install and configuration process, which > is much harder than with Windows, even if you know what you're doing. > I know I could upgrade the kernel and each little piece every time > a bulletin comes out about some new security vulnerability, but not > every update is necessary and its a pain in the @$$ to be tinkering > with all the time. Its like having a car that needs a tune-up three > times a week. I think RedHat and the other major commercial > distros have the right idea, but just don't go far enough. Maybe > I should just stop whining and accept the fact that using any OS > is a recipe for exponentially increasing complexity. That's why > we get the big bucks, right? ;-) > -- ----- up2date -u It's been in Redhat distro's since 7.0 It completely handles installing updates - by default, all except kernel. you can set it up as a cron job once a week and you'll never know that the updates are being downloaded & installed unless you check the log. Of course the debian folks had to sound off about the apt-get, which is available for redhat but it is 3rd party. Craig