If you haven't seen SpamAssassin yet I suggest you'll take a look. http://spamassassin.taint.org/ Very useful! Ever sense I set it up on my colo linux server I haven't had any spam at all to any of my domains. I just recently setup a linux box with spam assassin to simply filter out spam and redirect it to the real SMTP server at work. From my experience it's enterprise ready. -Bryan >>> bob@traxel.com 10/02/02 12:55PM >>> At the risk of sounding like an AOL'er ME TOO! On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, technomage wrote: > I would certainly like to have something like this. > I take great pains to insure that my home box doesn't get used as a relay > (open or otherwise). > > could you send me the postfix and other configs for me to examine? > > Technomage > > On Wednesday 02 October 2002 07:39 am, you wrote: > > At least the encryption part is already taken care of. > > see: > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2246.txt > > > > I block more spam by rejecting bad HELO and rejecting > > on non-existant domains on the RHS of email addresses than > > from all the RBL lists I use. > > > > I am *still* amazed at the sheer number of whacked configurations > > for mail servers I see based on rejects in my logs. > > > > If anyone is interested I can share snippets of my Postfix > > configs and samples of the kinds of rejects I get. > > > > I have been holding off on SpamAssassin until I rebuild my > > mail server with NetBSD. > > > > The whole spam thing is out of control on both sides > > and I wish I could think of a sane way to deal with it. > > > > Anonymous email is still available. > > Use Anonymous Remailers and chain. > > Mixmaster makes this pretty painless and there are tools like mailcrypt for > > Emacs for getting it all going. > > There are also Windows clients for the Remailer system so no one gets left > > out. The Remailer Ops ( which I was one of back in the day ) have tools in > > place to try to prevent spam and other abuses. Sooner or > > later spammers will figure out how to circumvent them but it hasn't > > happened yet. > > > > HTH. > > > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 12:08:33AM -0400, George Toft wrote: > > > Hi Bill, > > > > [snipped] > > > > > The problem is in the content of the e-mail. This is much like the > > > highway. We pay our licensing fee to the state (fee to the ISP), and we > > > load up our car and drive (send e-mail). How can you tell that the > > > person in the car committed some crime (violated AUP)? You can't, until > > > someone else complains. Make the roads toll-roads, like California's > > > private highways (require SSL), and all you've done is slow down the > > > system. > > > > [snipped] > > > > > George > > > > > > Bill Nash wrote: > > > > So of late, more and more has been hitting my inbox. Being the creative > > > > and sometimes not nice person I am, I started thinking about ways to > > > > legitimately cut down on spam, while making spammers scream in pain. > > > > Doing some role reversal, I started > > > > thinking about some of what keeps spammers in business: > > > > > > > > - Difficult to block for various reasons > > > > - Anonymity > > > > - Open relays > > > > [snipped] > > > > > > First off, why aren't mail servers talking to each other over encrypted > > > > streams? Everyone is talking about encrypting mail to each other, and > > > > exchanging keys, so why not do it with the mail servers themselves as > > > > an additional step of security? > > > > [snipped] > > > > > > Some interesting ripple effects of this, however. What happens to free > > > > email suppliers like yahoo and hotmail? Conventional ISPs have a > > > > billing record to tie user accounts to. Hotmail has an IP address, > > > > which we all know isn't the most reliable thing. Yes, this kinda > > > > removes the anonymity aspect of email, but (oh god, here comes a can of > > > > worms) what's the point of anonymous email? I see the Caller ID/Call > > > > Blocking argument applying here. > > > > > > > > Alright, this is getting long, so. Hm. Where's my beer? > > > > > > > > - billn > > -- > I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or > numbered! > My life is my own - No. 6 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "We're on the threshold of a whole new system. The time where accountants decide what music people hear is coming to an end. Accountants may be good at numbers, but they have terrible taste in music. 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