On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 20:29, George Toft wrote: > Looks like their adopting Debian's attitude. Bummer. > > For a company whose stated goal is to take on Microsoft on the Desktop, > leaving this stuff out is not the way to do it. > ---- Actually - I think this has always been their philosophy and nothing has changed with the exception of the mp3 player which has now been removed...XMMS has no ability to play mp3's. Ogg Vorbis is supported. Apparently the license holder for mp3 format is requiring licensing payments. Redhat only distributes binaries for which they have the full source code and thus things like nVidia drivers and Acrobat Reader will never be distributed unless the companies change their philosophy which would appear at this juncture to be highly unlikely. The problem is obvious...once they start shipping with closed source binaries...where do they draw the line? Linux is making impressive gains on the Microsoft desktop for functionality and it's interesting that RH has picked the applications to feature in this distribution...Open Office, Evolution, Mozilla - even when you choose the KDE window manager. This coupled with their announced intentions to release a version of their Professional Workstation for the X86 platform signifies that they indeed want to offer a desktop environment for more than the linux afficianado. Craig