I understand that since they are different they would have general purpose proponents, but what about for a specific use, such as writing web pages? What would be their major advantages and disadvantages? I'm also considering Quanta+. On Tuesday 03 September 2002 03:19 pm, Lynn David Newton wrote: > Mark> It's interesting that you should mention emacs. > Mark> I just started learning emacs while wondering > Mark> if I should invest my time in vim instead. I > Mark> have a book, "GNU Emacs" 2nd ed. Oreilly 1996, > Mark> based on Version 19.30 where the author > Mark> describes the advances and differences since > Mark> the book's first edition based on Version 18. > Mark> Here we are at Version 21 suggesting I should > Mark> probably toss the book and use the online and > Mark> help tutorials. > > No one needs a book to learn Emacs, which is by nature > self-documenting. The tutorial is a fine place to learn > the basics, followed by the Info manual. Once you learn > how to find the information you need, which is always a > couple of keystrokes away, you don't need a book. > > I don't get involved in Emacs versus Vim discussions > because they are not the same thing. No person who does > not know vi and its extensions upside down and > backwards can legitimately claim to know Unix. I've > known it since 1983. However, I've used Emacs since > 1987, and since about 1991, XEmacs, for 99.5% of > everything I do on any Unix machine it is available on. > > The bottom line is you'd better learn them both. In the > Unix/Linux classes I teach at UAT, I teach only vi > (vim) in the first semester, but have a brief lab in > Emacs (GNU) in the second semester.