The downside of acquiring some "fast" development tool to develop a project that has to be done yesterday is that you still have to factor in rampup time learning how to use it, plus installation and config time. I just finished a Web site for someone. Some months ago I bought Macromedia MX Studio to run on my XP. I started planning the Web site and quickly found myself in a bewildering sea of menus and buttons, having no idea what they would do, although I knew perfectly well what I wanted to do. So why did I need some behemoth Windows-based package to help me do it? So I reverted to my old methods and in the end am infinitely better off for it. In fact, I even put a "Created by XEmacs" logo on the "About this Web Site" personal credit page. And in the end I'm convinced it was by far the fastest solution. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ