I would say midgard is out because of the difficulty in integrating it into the unity wave environment (unless they have it already?). It uses a custom apache module, and a custom php module, mainly for reasons of performance. It is a solid piece of software but fairly complex and with a learning curve. Also requires a good deal of tweaking to fit ones needs. Sincerely, David Uhlman CTO 50km Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Neighbors" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: Re: PLUG website