Thank you to all who responded to my inquiry about WAV editors yesterday. I don't think that any of the recommendations that came in were for actual WAV editors, rather for ripping and converting tools. Fine, because that's the task I'm trying to accomplish. First of all ... MP3 output is what I need, not OGG. Not enough players support OGG yet. My task is to deliver samples to Amazon and other distribution services for my client's new double-CD release. MP3 is required. Three different people suggested GRIP. Excellent, I already have that on my system. Thanks for the clue. However, I'm having two major problems Problem #1: o When I try to listen to a track, there is NO SOUND! If I press the Play button, a track list appears, the first track is selected with a blue bar, and the bar just starts advancing down the track list, about one per second, until it gets to the end, then loops back to the top. No sound. No nothing. I finally made it stop, but I had to whack the stop and pause buttons a dozen times. All my other sound-playing stuff ... GTCD, the KDE CD player (whatever it's called), RealAudio, XMMS, RealAudio, etc., all work fine. Where this is particularly crucial is in ripping partial tracks: - Press the Rip tab on GRIP and click the Rip partial track button, to select any subset of sectors from a given track. There is a Play button, which should enable me to listen to the chunk I want to rip and encode to make sure I'm cutting in and out at exactly the right place. I *need* this Real Bad! But there is NO SOUND! - It *does* rip the file just fine, using whatever encoder I choose. One responder said that lame does a better job than bladeenc, so I've been using that. I haven't figured what tweaks, if any, might be appropriate to the command line options. The same person said Gogo is a much faster version of lame, but I don't have that. In summary, problem one is I need to know why GRIP will not *play* tracks. Problem #2: o Not a problem with GRIP itself, but it would be nice, rather than just dropping randomly into the middle of a segment, which is impossible to do smoothly, to be able to fade in and out at the beginning and end. Perhaps I do need an actual WAV editor to accomplish this after all? Thank you all. I do genuinely appreciate the helpful advice I get via the list from those who take the time to respond. There is so much to know. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ