Are you saying that this will be ugly except for Mozilla users? Is that because it's .PNG instead of .GIF? Vic Brian Cluff wrote: > The gimp does transparent PNGs. Just make the part that you want > transparet, transparent (let the white and grey grid show though) > and save it out. > PNG's can actually have full alpha channel worth of transparency, > but only mozilla seems to support it. > If you are running mozilla see www.azgeocaching.com 's logo at > the top left of the page for an example of full transparency. > If you go there is a different browser it gives you a gif that > have a dither patter to fake the same effect... badly.