On Monday 05 August 2002 06:30 pm, you wrote: > I really like this name: http://gnubies.org. Obviously taken, but maybe > they will let us host a "chapter" out here in the desert. > > I get the "joke" on the LOST name but it has a negative ring to it. I > don't have anything better yet though... > > Alan Oh no, not "LOST in the desert." I haven't been following the discussion much but am willing to help with the project. I'm mentoring a friend via email and phone and Linux is a very frustrating nut for him to crack. Example: He complained that FIND was much slower in Linux than Windows, so I suggested LOCATE and sent him a short how-to found via Goggle. Well, he opened the run dialog in KDE, typed LOCATE and expected something to happen, which, of course, it didn't. He called me to complain that LOCATE didn't work. Not being in front of the computer with him made it harder to sort out what went wrong. All along I was thinking he was in a terminal window instead of KDE. If he had typed it in a terminal windows he would have seen the usage. His other complaint is that he can't begin to understand the documentation and is afraid of mail lists, because they will either be over his head or he'll get the old RTFM treatment. He's not a dumb bunny either being a retired aero engineer and having build his own computer and installed Windows countless times. It doesn't help that things that work on my computer don't work on his, even with the same distro. :-( Dennis Kibbe