moin, moin, if we're gonna be helping people install Free Software on m$, then we should also have a reportbug mechanism for them. The reportbug program would let them describe the bug and then send the info to us ( or wherever it should be going ). It should have to ability to automagically gather some info about what's on their box ( program version, lib versions, etc. ), but they should have to manually trigger that every time. I think they should have to intentionally turn over information like that. We should have a mechanism to contact them with updates about the bug report as it's investigated. It has to be Free Software. Duh :). It would be good if they don't have to install a scripting language to make this happen. Python can be compiled. Does that include libraries? In other words, could we make a statically linked, pre-compiled, self-contained Python app? Would that be huge? The app, of course, need to be GUI. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ # Take a razor to your throat # and a noose to your neck, # then follow that up with a cup of poison. # Not a good way to start the day. - der.hans