moin, moin, OK, got mail from Kyle over at EMR ( Met him at the Expo. EMR is a GNU/Linux-based ISP. Their parent company has asked to be switched to GNU/Linux for the desktop. He will probably be doing a presentation for us. Everybody say hi to Kyle :). He pointed out a resource that just wasn't obvious last night, namely the SMUG home page :). http://aztec.asu.edu/smug/Next_Meeting.htm There they list the meeting as being at the Ahwatukee Recreation Center, 5001 E. Cheyenne, Ahwatukee, Phoenix, AZ. I always though Ahwatukee was it's own city, but everything lists Ahwatukee resouces for Phoenix. Anyway, google to the rescue: http://www.azlife.net/Recreation/Recreation-Centers.htm Ah, it's the AHWATUKEE RETIREMENT RECREATION CENTER and still at 5001 E Cheyenne Dr., 480 598 3679. http://maps.yahoo.com/maps.py?addr=5001+E.+Cheyenne+Dr&csz=Phoenix%2Caz Hmm, that looks closer to the directions I was given. BTW, for those that don't know this yahoo maps shortcut, it rocks because URLs fit in 80 chars. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ # I chose to use the kernel sources as my documentation. ;-) # -- Kevin Buettner