All you have to do is ask... For those that donet know you can get XFree86 4.2, Flash, Open Office and many other things as Debian packages. http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~pc99/debian/kde3.html > I know the feeling. I have been waiting for KDE3 packages on Debian for > some time. While I don't mind compiling (that is what I do at work where I > don't have root), it kind of defeats the purpose of Debian if I have to > bypass the package management. -Derek