Alan> Install OpenOffice.org 1.0. No command line Alan> required. It has yet to crash on me. ... Maybe you can give me a hint what I did wrong then. For reference, my experience with Windows goes back about three months, with Unix about 20 years. I got VMware (for my RH 7.2 machine) and installed XP Pro on it, and all sorts of software goodies: Office, Developer, and Macromedia Studio MX. (Got it all for practically nothing, so why not?) Installation was the easiest thing I've ever done on a computer, and it's all worked flawlessly ever since, even if there are some things that as a Unix bigot I find annoying. As for OpenOffice: I downloaded the package with the intent of replacing StarOffice -- not that I'll really need either one now that I've got MS Office. I unwound it and found an enormous number of files in the directory with nothing obvious to run or read. So I picked one that looked to me like it might be the install script and ran it. It seemed to sort of install. When I tried to run it, it wouldn't let me start without running me through the third degree. The first thing it wanted to know was about my address book format. I have no intention of using this beast for email. I've used XEmacs VM for email for many years, the absolute best email package I've ever seen, and I use the BBDB (Big Brother DataBase) rolodex database for addresses, and have for at least 10 years. OpenOffice wouldn't let me ignore the question. When I tried it hung my system so hard I couldn't even get to a console and had to press the button and do a shock reboot. The second time I came to that question I didn't know what the right answer to the question was, so I think I accepted whatever was the default, even though I don't have an address book of any other type on my system. Somehow I got through to the main startup page. I tried to open the word processor, but couldn't type a single character. Once again my system hung so hard I had to reboot again. When I booted again I couldn't get OpenOffice off my system fast enough. Fortunately, I hadn't gotten rid of StarOffice yet. As for requiring a command line to install something: What's the big deal about that? I prefer it that way. At least then you can see what's going on. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ