Tom Achtenberg wrote: > I run mandrake update from the menu. It is on the packaging menu. No need to use a terminal window. You do need to be logged in as root. > It is not a good thing to be logged into a GUI as root. MandrakeUpdate will prompt you for a password if you are not root already - whether you invoke it from the command line in a terminal window or with a click of the mouse. So will most other apps (Mandrake) that need root privs.. Using a terminal window allows you to see any text output that the program may write to std error or std out. This can be helpful and/or very informational. You can see what MandrakeUpdate is doing better (if you want or need to), especially since the progress bars don't work right while the packages are being downloaded... The bash shell, with its' command completion, makes it very fast to invoke MandrakeUpdate. Just type : $ Man and you are running. Unless you've installed something into your PATH that matches that also... -- KevinO Matz's Law: A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.