IntelliCAD is an AutoCAD like open source project that we ported our AutoCAD application to. It look very close to AutoCAD and works very much like it. David -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Tom Emerson Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:18 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: AutoDesk Replacement? (was: BSA Presentation?) (was Re: Ernie Ball Link) The BSA Arizona examples note AutoDesk software. AutoDesk / AutoCAD is a tough software to replace with a GNU/Open Source equivalent. In the case of a commercial package for AutoCAD, I don't see how it could be replaced by a GNU'd equivalent. (for specific engineering and design disiplines, there are very sophisticated software packages that run on top of AutoCAD). Does anybody on the list have experience with CAD/CAM/CAE GNU/Open Source software? Doing a quick google, I found these, some that claim proper use of the DXF format (AutoDesk file formats): Electric, GNU. http://www.gnu.org/software/electric/electric.html LUnIx by Tech-EDV, collection of CAD links for Linux http://www.computer.privateweb.at/tech-edv/default.htm LUnIx by Tech-EDV, another copy http://web.utanet.at/tech-edv/ GNU-CAD-CAM stalled project? http://gnu-cad-cam.sourceforge.net/ GNU-CAD, stalled project? http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnu-cad/ Some of the systems mentioned at by 'Tech-EDV' look for-real. It's been several years since I had a need for AutoCAD, but thinking back, I would be hesitant to replace it with anything else. It's a religious thing, not so different from the choice of vi vs. Emacs as a text editor. (ah, that might not be such a good comparison ... let me say that the AutoCAD I am familiar with is a very powerful tool, but you do need to know how to use the tool!) - tom e. -------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Tom Snell wrote: Robert Bushman wrote: >Thanks Derek! > >I think "BSA/FBI Licensing Raids - Is Your Corporation >Safe?", or something like that would be a fantastic >presentation topic for IF2. It would be a nice opportunity >for some info handouts as well. Anybody want to take >this one? > >Bob > Here's a link to the BSA's press release on the "voluntary software audits" in Arizona (read: raids in a velvet glove due to disgruntled employee "songbird" or other nefarious scenario): http://www.bsa.org/usa/press/newsreleases/2002-01-16.854.phtml These local examples should be hammered home to every company with ears and a tight budget. The most pathetic comment was from the EVP of Ops. of one of the Phoenix companies, who said his company was "happy that we were able to work with the BSA to resolve the unintentional licensing issues identified by our audit".......excuse me, but if I were the owner or an investor in that company, and I'd just had to cough up $65K to cover my ass outside of court, I wouldn't be "happy": I'd be birddogging anything that didn't say "Microsoft" on the box. Yes, presentations do need to be positive, but a little fear of losing major cash over licensing issues, which are always difficult to control anyway, would help (and already is helping) to push folks toward open source. Ernie Ball is a great example, and we have examples right here in Phoenix as well (Maybe we should get the Presidents of the Phoenix companies that got stung to get special invitations...)...... Tom ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss