Looking through what I have so far, I can create a simple to use install CD if I drop some of the less newbie oriented versions. I was thinking of dropping the Solaris versions, the MadeInLinux RPM, the LinuxPPC, and the OSX (being only a development release) version. That would leave me with the Intel Linux tarball (which I will uncompress), the Helix, Mandrake, and SuSE RPMs, and the Windows Install (which I am still going to create an autorun.inf for). At the moment, I'm at 765MB, so I don't *have* to drop all the versions I've listed. If anyone wishes to suggest which of the potential removals I should keep, I'm open to suggestions. On Friday 12 July 2002 15:28, Digital Wokan wrote: > Already have those, Linux, Solaris, and Windows versions. Even snagged the > development version for OSX they had. Source tarballs, too. I'm trying to > get as comprehensive a collection as possible to make it as useful as > possible for users checking it out from a library. I might unzip the > Windows version and create an autorun to start it just to make it even > easier on the Windows users who are used to CD-based installs just popping > up. > > If we want to promote the software, we have to do more than just say "here > you go" and hope they can figure it out. > > On Friday 12 July 2002 22:20, Matt Alexander wrote: > > openoffice.org has .tar.gz binaries which should work on all the > > platforms you listed. > > > > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Digital Wokan wrote: > > > Okay, this was not as easy a task as I expected. What I've run into so > > > far: 1. Mandrake and MadeInLinux are the only distros with RPMs > > > available on RPMFind.net. > > > 2. XimianGnome has an OOo RPM, which I assume will work well with > > > RedHat, but I didn't want to label the folder for that RPM for RedHat > > > use. 3. Debian packages are not ready either. (Some kind of issue > > > regarding stlport4/GCC2.x vs stlport4.5/GCC3.x.) > > > 4. I'm still hunting. Found the SuSE 8.0 RPM for OOo 641 on > > > ftp.sunet.se. Seeing if any others are there. > > > > > > On Friday 12 July 2002 11:46, Digital Wokan wrote: > > > > I like the OpenOffice CD idea the more I hear it. I'm going to start > > > > finding all the versions of OpenOffice I can (RPMs for each of the > > > > RPM distros, Debs, source, Windows, etc.) I've got the room to spare > > > > at the moment, and I'm on cable, so it's time I put the bandwidth to > > > > use for a good cause. (I'm guess Quake didn't fall into that > > > > category. :) ) > > > > > > > > On Friday 12 July 2002 10:26, Matt Alexander wrote: > > > > > I see PLUG as having two major components. One, as a support group > > > > > for its members, and two, as an action group for promoting the use > > > > > of Free software in our community. > > > > > > > > > > Maricopa County is a good target, and I think we'll be successful, > > > > > but it's going to take some time. Right now, I think it's > > > > > important for us to also focus our energies on smaller fish. With > > > > > enough group participation, we should be able to have regular > > > > > success stories at each meeting. Maybe have a prize for the PLUG > > > > > member that converts the most organizations each month, like, say, > > > > > a Delphi 5 CD for Windows NT (you had to be at the meeting last > > > > > night for this to be funny... or not funny.). So, let's begin > > > > > targeting various organizations that would be relatively easy to > > > > > migrate over to Free software. Several non-profit organizations > > > > > were mentioned last night, so lets start with them. And as was > > > > > mentioned last night several times, getting Windows users > > > > > comfortable with OpenOffice, Mozilla, etc., will go a long way > > > > > towards easing their transition to Linux. > > > > > > > > > > -Libraries Part I > > > > > Make free CDs w/ software that runs on both Windows & Linux, such > > > > > as OpenOffice, Mozilla, Gimp, etc., available for checkout. Make > > > > > it clear that people can install this software without any > > > > > licensing restrictions on as many computers as they want to. > > > > > Include PLUG info with each CD, as well as brochures about PLUG on > > > > > a stand by the software. Does PLUG have any existing informational > > > > > brochures? If not, we need to create some. Any volunteers? > > > > > > > > > > -Libraries Part II > > > > > LTSP for computer labs. > > > > > > > > > > The libraries should be an easy way to prove the success of our > > > > > software/setup. We can then use the libraries as examples when > > > > > approaching other larger organizations. > > > > > Here is a possible outline for approaching local libraries (please > > > > > suggest any modifications for improvement): > > > > > > > > > > (1) Collect information on current software that can be checked > > > > > out. Collect information on current computing uses within the > > > > > library. (2) Contact libraries and discuss our purpose and > > > > > motivations. Ask if they'd be willing to accept free software > > > > > donations for checkout. (3) Discuss the possibilities of setting > > > > > up a Linux Terminal Server and several clients for use within the > > > > > library. Explain the benefits, etc. Give a demonstration. Explore > > > > > options for any additional hardware needs. (4) Setup an LTSP lab > > > > > and give basic training in administration and client-side use to > > > > > the librarians. (5) Be available for emergencies? > > > > > > > > > > We should be contacting as many small non-profits, schools, and > > > > > other financially strapped groups as possible, and hand them CDs > > > > > with OpenOffice, etc. > > > > > > > > > > As individuals, we should give (and help install) OpenOffice on any > > > > > computer that we can our hands on. Make it clear to the user that > > > > > they can (and should) install it on all of their additional > > > > > computers, and also encourage them to loan the CD to their friends > > > > > and families as well. > > > > > > > > > > ASU and the various community colleges in our area would be an > > > > > excellent venue for getting OpenOffice into more users' hands. > > > > > Maybe have CDs available in the bookstore? Maybe have CDs > > > > > available in the computer labs? Maybe instructors could give > > > > > students the URL for OpenOffice and encourage them to use it? Is > > > > > there anyone that's currently a student that has some good > > > > > suggestions on getting more students to use OpenOffice? > > > > > > > > > > Hand out OpenOffice CDs to your coworkers. > > > > > > > > > > Hans mentioned that he tried to apply for a job at Maricopa County, > > > > > but couldn't because of the outdated Acrobat plugin for Linux. > > > > > Hans, buddy, find a Windows system and apply. If you could get > > > > > hired working for the county, we'd be unstoppable. ;-) > > > > > BWAAAHAAAHAAA!!! ~M > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write > > > > > mail. > > > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss