I'm not sure what the group's experience is with the Gartner Group, but I can tell you this: I have to deal with these morons every day. They are overrated in a big way. They are masters of FUD. I have watched their 'experts' fumble under question. They memorize statistics and 'facts' and spew them at every opportunity. I wasn't too bummed reading the minutes of the meeting that der.hans posted, but I was bummed to find that they are using Gartner. *shudder* Be afraid. Be VERY afraid. On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, der.hans wrote: > He also seems to place a good deal of faith in the Gartner Group as the > largest whatever the Gartner Group defines itself as and the Gartner Group > says an enterprise with more than 5,000 employees ( such as Maricopa County > with 12,000 employees is ) should use both 'enterprise' technologies.