On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, foodog wrote: > Robert Bushman wrote: > ... > > My humble opinion: > > > > Maricopa has no serious intent to do anything to > > alter its dependant relationship with Microsoft, > > and is not interested in trialing Linux. We are > > barking up the wrong tree. > > Figgers. Thanks much for your update, Robert, and everyone who helped > make it happen. It was a worthy project. > It still is a worthy project. Remember that adage, 'the customer is always right'? We are the county's customer, where access to online docs is concerned. If we ask for access and compatibility to their platforms, they HAVE to provide it. There are many different ways to attack a critter this size. How do ants defeat a bear? The big problem with this: How important are county docs to us? I, personally, never look at them. For me to complain that I can't access them is a simple act of, for lack of a purely appropriate term, shit-disturbing. And as I've said previously, replacing MS simply because it's MS is a misguided efforts. The needs and efficiency of the county, as they service the community, must come first. They mention that MS licensing and support costs only take 5% of the budget, and people hem and haw over what that dollar figure is. The budget is public record, and I do recall it sitting at something like 38 million, as discussed at the Saturday strategy session. If the county isn't going to budge because they're set in their ways and/or their staff simply can't handle the different technologies, then they're going to need an example to work from. Start going after other offices. Start raising the bar on deployed integration systems that use open source technologies to support their chosen environments, and prove that it can be done at lower costs, both in support and licensing outlay. A good place to start is the wrinkle in the fabric between county, state, and city. Lastly, don't succumb to the base desire to mope and whine over the setback. Big deal, they're firmly entrenched in the Microsoft camp. There are ways to use that to an advantage. We've all grown up watching movies with noble characters laid low by villains with no moral standing going after things they hold near and dear. Kick the Noble MS Heroes in the pants: Raise the community accepted bar on standards and practices. Oversight and security requirements beyond what MS currently offers, or *declines* to offer will bring the win32 warhost to it's knees. Any contest of wills has a history proven armament of dirty tricks just waiting to be unleashed. Consider this to be a large scale conflict that will take time and energy to overcome, but understand that you need to keep a firm goal in sight. What's the goal? From my point of view, it's getting trusted technologies in the hands of our government that can be assessed by a public oversight consisting of citizens smart enough to know what's what. That means open source tools, in my eyes. I'm sure many of you agree (This includes the government of Peru.) Once you have a goal, you need a plan. Any plan requires information, and that means reconnaisance and assessment. Keep in mind, Microsoft isn't inherently the enemy here: It's closed source tools and proprietary technology. Every battlefield has crucial points to be controlled and held, and in our case, it's going to be information repositories. A key point to consider is that the county has deployed technology for one major factor: efficiency. Other factors, such as cost, increased efficiency, seamless integration, and most importantly security are the crucial points we want to target: 1: What information does the county keep that we, as citizens, consider to be vital? Where does security become vital? - This is a sticky argument, since we are dealing with public data. I think the key points are that data should be safeguarded from tampering/corruption, and access to important data be logged and monitored, or publicized. 2: What county offices are centered around collecting, storing, and using that data? What offices do they interact with? 3: What requirements are those offices held to for securing that data? Who can access it? What technologies are used to secure it? - What is the security rating/history of those technologies? You and I both know MS is rife for various worm and distributed attacks. 4: Where can Open Source technology fit that MS cannot or will not support? Where can Open Source handle the same work with greater efficiency and security? Assessment is the first step. We can speculate on how to do things ahead of time, but execution can't be done efficiently without good tools. Instead of weapons, we use policy and procedure. The trick is finding policies that work for us, getting new policies in place that help, and getting rid of policies that suck. A good place to start assessing is simply reading departmental reports that are available. Go over the budgets and see where technology spending and staff training is going. Do some comparison shopping and start keeping score. Support figures and license costs are good things to watch for. Equipment outlay is another. Keep an eye out for other states and counties on the Open Source track, as well. There are examples in the wild to be learned from and held up for scrutiny. Purchasing plans account for depreciation of computer hardware over a period of years, which is why the county keeps hardware for so long. Same with lawyers, but mostly because they're cheap. Most of us know that Unix based OS's can extend the usability of some hardware even further, without a degree of slowness noticeable to the average user. I'm thinking about mail servers as I write this. Also, we're not out for blood, here, so killing and maiming (or even simply verbally abusing) county staff is right out. If you feel the need to be hostile, you give me a call, and I'll be more than happy to provide you with a hostile enviroment to vent your frustrations. =) All this said, it's a big battlefield. Where to begin? - billn