for me, its 2 things.
1, I can't drive (and you know why) and 2, I don't have enough funds to pay 
for room and registration. its been a very long times since I was last at a 
DEFCON. I'd very much like to return, but unless I can get some cash (like 
working on machines as payment, etc), I'm pretty much stuck.

btw, who all is going?

Technomage

On Friday 05 July 2002 12:19 pm, you wrote:
> Actually, on this note, is anyone interested in carpooling? With the
> recent theft of my primary vehicle, I'm not keen on the motorcycle ride
> across the desert.
>
> - billn
>
> On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, foodog wrote:
> > Just wondering if enough PLUG members will be there to have a poolside
> > (or inside, at the bar) Stammtisch?  I get tired of gambling after I've
> > lost about $20.00 (pretty darn quick, as a rule).  The Thursday night
> > pre-registration seems like a good time/place.
> >
> > I'll be there for the week and would welcome the opportunity to spend
> > some time around "normal people" (you know, Linux users) :-)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > bob smith wrote:
> > > >I was
> > > > at his presentation, however, and the subject
> > > > primarily concerned the fact
> > > > that Adobe was selling gift wrapping to the
> > > > publishers and calling it
> > > > "security".
> > >
> > > Going to Defcon again this year Voltage Spike?
> >
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