Just wondering if enough PLUG members will be there to have a poolside (or inside, at the bar) Stammtisch? I get tired of gambling after I've lost about $20.00 (pretty darn quick, as a rule). The Thursday night pre-registration seems like a good time/place. I'll be there for the week and would welcome the opportunity to spend some time around "normal people" (you know, Linux users) :-) Steve bob smith wrote: > > >I was > > at his presentation, however, and the subject > > primarily concerned the fact > > that Adobe was selling gift wrapping to the > > publishers and calling it > > "security". > > Going to Defcon again this year Voltage Spike?