I just discovered that my office is closed tomorrow. I'd like to move that we have meetings tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday at Bandersnatch (assuming they are open those days). I recommend Bandersnatch since they have network connectivity that we will need for research, and food and beer to fuel our creativity. The idea of a spokesperson is a very good one - someone to handle the opening statement and formal Q&A portion. Also think it might be worthwhile to try to shift the end of the meeting into a more social mode - to show that Linux, like local government, is a community thing, and we're all working together to solve a problem. On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Kimi A. Adams wrote: > Totally agreed. That's the biggest thing that is going to make this > movement a failure: not knowing who is to speak for the group and what they > will speak about. > > What are we going to do about this? Appoint a spokesperson? Create of > list of points? > > Kimi > > At 7/2/02, you wrote: > > >A far worse result would be to turn out in numbers, largely unorganized, > >and appear before them speaking like religious zealots. > > > >Numbers are important, yes, but more important will be the ability to > >calmly and rationally present our points and viable alternatives. > >Alternatives that can actually be implemented in a reasonable timeframe > >and can be expected to work. I believe it's impossible to expect the > >county to turn over every desktop and server in a very few days, for > >instance, regardless of standing laws or statutes. > > > >Again, clear and concise points, well presented, with backup, are what > >will be needed here. Speaking off the cuff, without prior thought or > >consideration, is not likely to make many points. > > > >-Curtis > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Curtis Zinzilieta voice: 928.527.0083 > >Senior Consulting Engineer mobile: 928.606.5753 > >Red Hat Professional Services email: curtisz@redhat.com > >http://www.redhat.com/ personal: clz@sw.incantations.com > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >My views are my own, not that of my employer. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Dennis Kibbe wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 02 July 2002 05:14 pm, slr wrote: > > > > ok i have notified channel 5, it will be up to them to cover the story. > > > > > > > > slr > > > > > > It sounds like we have an unpresidented opportunity here. To make the > > most of > > > it I suggest: > > > > > > 1. We turn out IN NUMBERS > > > 2. We get together before hand to go over the points we want to drive home. > > > 3. We turn out IN NUMBERS > > > > > > I'm sure that governments move slowly so maybe the best we can hope for > > is a > > > little media attention and open up some lines of communications. > > > > > > The worst thing in my mind is if we DON'T TURN OUT IN NUMBERS! > > > > > > Dennis Kibbe > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________ > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > ------------------------------------------------------------------- "We need commonsense judges who understand that our rights were derived from God," - President George W. Bush, 27 June 2002 http://www.nandotimes.com/politics/story/448758p-3591873c.html What if he had said, "our rights are derived from Vishnu?" -------------------------------------------------------------------