I think this is one of the great opportunities afforded us in doing Install Fests and keeping track of new users of Linux. By finding out what new users are having trouble with, we can soften the most painful sharp edges. By asking people if we can contact them, then following up after 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, and a year, we can find out what will make Linux more appealing to new users. Imagine the potential if our Install Fests become sufficiently polished that companies are willing to foot the bill to have us go on site.... On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, George Toft wrote: > When a business person looks at a shift in technology, they must > consider retraining and migration costs. I spend about and hour per day > (less now that we fixed a glaring design error from a Big 5 Consulting > firm that we paid almost 7 figures to) talking with people who are > confused by a statement like this: "Please answer three of the five > questions below." This is demonstrated to me daily as people answer all > five questions. > > There is a substantial difference between you/me, and the average > corporate PC user. Business must take these factors into account when > making migration and upgrade plans. Enlightenment is eye-candy, and not > well suited for a business setting - business needs consistency, > reliability and repeatability. A system that is consistent with what > most people are used to is important. > > George > > > slr wrote: > > > > i must disagree with this slightly, because my case was a little different > > than the average Windoze user. i came from the MainFrame world, and to me at > > that time a PC was a toy. so the first Windoze box i saw was a joke, > > compared to the Data Center surrounding it. anyway i eventually got a PC > > because i want to play Doom, and of coarse Windoze. i started running > > lightstep because i couldnt stand exploder, > > then one day this friend of mine was over and i was showing him lightstep > > and he said i have something i think you will like. he was right, > > Enlightenment DR13 running the default theme on a RH 5.0 box. that was it > > for me, i had to run it. > > > > so Enlightenment did it for me, and if it would have been a Windows look > > alike i dont know if Linux would have sparked the passion that it did. i'm > > not saying that Enlightenment should be the main focus by no means. but i do > > feel it deserves a place somewhere, in some dark obscure corner. :~D > > > > slr > > > > > I would hate to see the demo compare some Windows box with > > > Enlightenment. That would drive them off fer sure! Such a demo should > > > compare KCE with Win95 look & feel or IceWM, so they won't feel > > > alienated. > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > Install Fests generally attract the curious and the convinced. They are > > > > either convinced that they want to switch to Linux or they are curious. > > They > > > > are also usually Joe Sixpack types who are getting on the clue train or > > > > geeks-in-training who know that there is a lot of fun under the hood. > > Not too > > > > many suits show up. That is another project in itself. > > > > > > > > If we could wangle out way into one of the many computer shows at the > > Civic > > > > Plaza, those suits and their minions do like to be impressed by the > > power, > > > > stability, and performance of the kinds of apps that they license and > > use on > > > > a daily basis > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 26 June 2002 18:05, you wrote: > > > > >
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