Enlightenment should not be compared to KDE or Gnome yet, a more apt comparison is to that of sawfish, or windowmaker. Enlightenment is a WINDOWmanager as of 0.16.5, this means that all it does is manage windows, for example, it puts the handles the title-bar for windows, iconboxes, pagers, etc. It does not manage the desktop (it has no integrated file manager). As of 0.17 (a complete rewrite by the way..) it will include a file manager called "Essence" it will basically be a complete desktop management solution. Just as KDE and Gnome currently are. If you want icons on your desktop you have to go through the config files manually and add a custom graphic and associate actions with that graphic, etc. If you are set on using enlightenment before 0.17 is released then I would use it within Gnome (put gnome-session in your .xinitrc) and also use something like Nautilus for file management to have icons on your desktop, easy launchers, etc. Here is a screenshot of my desktop, I do this currently (minus nautilus as the current stable release is kind of a CPU hog): http://soulmachine.com/desktop-ss.jpg On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 08:49, Bryce C. wrote: > Alright, I'm sort of a newbie at X Windows stuff but I know > Enlightenment is a window manager, just as KDE etc, but how do do I get > icons on my desktop. It's getting tiring having to go through 3 levels > of menu by middle mouse button. Anyone? > > > -- > Bryce C. > Network Administrator > CoBryce Communications > Bryce @ BryceCo . Net > > > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Blake Barnett (bdb) Sr. Unix Administrator DevelopOnline.com office: 480-377-6816 Learning is a skill, you get better at it with practice.