Quoting slr : > ok i sent the png image to my graphic guy, we will refer to him from now on > as > "Austin" (the name has been changed to protect his innocence), and this was > > his response: > > this is the same .gif inside of a .png document... > > vector images are made of lines and math, keeping high quality no matter > how large or small you resize the image. > > raster images are made of many many dots or pixels of only 257 different > colors, so when you enlarge these images, they get choppy or "pixilated" You might want to look at Ewing's site http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/ for a vector (EPS) of TUX. I think it would easy to remake a 300dpi logo from scratch using that, adding text (the font above and below Tux is Bauhaus93, I think), and finding some nice vector catcus artwork. The logo on the website is not of high enough resolution to go out to print. Dennis Kibbe ------------------------------------------------- Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/