You could download the RPM, then use a Gnutella client to search for "vmware serial" and see what pops up. This, however, goes against why I buy retail distros - it's cool to support a company that makes Linux products. I spent Thousands of $$$ on Windows crap just to get what's on a Linux distro for under $100. Quite a bit of my Windows $$$ went for clean up software, stabilizing software, and anti-virus software - none of which is necessary under Linux. This page still shows $299: https://www.vmware.com/request_processor?nextPage=/vmwarestore/newstore/category.jsp&action=CATALOG.GETGROUPS&application=store&ProductGroupCodes=WKST3-WIN,WKST3-LX The flexibility is wonderful. I use it to create testbeds that I can destroy. I have a copy of my World Famous (well, it will be) Firewall that I pound. I verified my backup procedure by restoring the backup to a vmware instance - including disk partitioning. I have a copy of Win95, that does my taxes, and some avi -> mpeg conversions for me. I have a full e-commerce server set up. If I totally hose any of them, I restore the image from backup, and restart it. Trying this on real hardware is not really feasible. George Nathan England wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ouch! > That's a little our of my price range! > > Am Dienstag 11 Juni 2002 04:39 vormittags schrieb George Toft: > > Hi Nathan, > > > > The price for vmware is $299. > > > > George > > > > Nathan England wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > George, > > > How much did you pay for vmware? > > > > > > Am Montag 10 Juni 2002 07:10 nachmittags schrieb George Toft: > > > > My experience with vmware is very positive. Issues with vmware: > > > > - I cannot listen to Internet Radio at kccnfm100.com. Even with four > > > > new software > > > > downloads, three reboots (virtual), and 2 crashes, all I got was > > > > static. - vmware does not do streaming media via USB. Want to use a > > > > USB camera? Forget it. > > > > - vmware with sound is usually preceeded with a loud pop. > > > > - vmware does not support directx very well (if at all). > > > > > > > > Other than that, it lets me do my taxes, browse using IE 5.5, and gives > > > > me blue screens, > > > > just like the real thing. > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > Mike Porter wrote: > > > > > Ok, this is intriguing to me. I am looking to migrate my house over > > > > > to Linux, but I have some apps for which I cannot find comparable > > > > > *nix substitutes. (Believe it or not, the request to move torward > > > > > Linux is at my wife's request) > > > > > > > > > > So, those who have experienced VMware, win4lin, and the like, can you > > > > > offer me your best suggestions as far as which you prefer and which > > > > > flavor of Linux you believe is most solid with your choice? Also, > > > > > any gotchas that you can think of would be most helpful. > > > > > > > > > > Also, has anyone run into problems with accessing Windows only > > > > > devices using either of these options? > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Derek Neighbors [mailto:derek@gnue.org] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:36 PM > > > > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > Cc: punkmmiv@cox.net > > > > > Subject: Re: Windows and Linux > > > > > > > > > > On 26 May 2002 22:44:49 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > Matt wrote: > > > > > > I know that Windows and Linux are supposed to operate pretty well > > > > > > together, but the only articles I've read are about installing > > > > > > Linux once Windows is already there. I'm running a pure SuSE 8.0 > > > > > > box and I was wondering if it's possible to install Windows on it > > > > > > while still being able to use my current install? > > > > > > > > > > Try win4lin. It lets you run windows as a window inside your > > > > > GNU/Linux environment. Unlike VMWare and friends it is not a VM. > > > > > Also, unlike WINE it actually works and works well. It will even let > > > > > windows use (read/write) to your GNU/Linux file systems and such. It > > > > > is not free, but neither is M$ Windows (so I assume you dont have a > > > > > problem with that) and it is by far the best way to 'suffer' M$ while > > > > > not having to 'leave' a real operating system. > > > > > > > > > > -Derek > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQE9BYPQQ7yNnsYcupwRAnQTAJ91XjbtdTMDhIRATUilt6n3zeX+qgCfU0fr > > > UHgqeghEeXKGOxPtBOCylhE= > > > =GPfW > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE9Bht/Q7yNnsYcupwRAhNWAKChScTJATCgmuNIRvNoSCKzhbKd5QCgiJ1C > UyLE5jAFRuvxRSWhfXHE6dI= > =4T27 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss