okay it appears that if i want to have the tint transparency option available(and i do :> ) i am going top have to compile xchat from source. I untar/unzip the files cd to the directory, ./configure all is well no errors at all, i type make and get this ... chimera:/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9# make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9' Making all in po make[2]: Entering directory `/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9/po' file=./`echo ca | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH -o $file ca.po /bin/sh: -o: command not found make[2]: *** [ca.gmo] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9/po' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 chimera:/home/bob/xchat-1.8.9# First thing i did was check to see if /bin/sh was there, it wasn't so i apt-get that and try again same thing. As lame as it sounds this litle option is something i would really like, if someone could help me out with this i would appreciate it, thanks in advance :)