I have been reading about all the things in the list
about the classes, installfest, and meetings, and I
thought I would give my thoughts as a newbie.  

1. When it comes to the classes, I think that samba
should be a topic.  I have been fighting with samba
for three days now, and samba is kicking my butt. (I
will be asking for help on this later.)

2. Another idea for newbies wanting to learn more
about *nix, I would recommend Thurman's class.  It
might cost a little bit, but I took his class last
spring, and not only Thurman was a great teacher but
it was a great place to learn *nix from a beginners
stand point.  When I started the class I never even
logged into a unix machine.  By the end of the course
I was running Mandrake as a dual boot.

3. I read a comment about having meeting guided
towards newbies.  From my standpoint this might not be
such a bad idea.  I have been to a few meeting at ASU,
and quite often you guys are talking way over my head.
But then that might be what the classes are for.

4. As for the installfest, I think this is great what
you all are doing and I would like to help.  I am not
sure where I would fit in with every thing, but I
would like to do what I can.

  I am student at ASU, If you all have some sort of
flyer and post info. on the web site, I will go over
to ASU and post flyers.  I can try to get something in
the State Press, put up flyers around campus, and even
go in before certain classes and write info. on boards
about the installfest.

                                    mike


--- "der.hans" <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> Am 23. May, 2002 schwätzte dennisk@sahuaro.f2s.com
> so:
> 
> > 1. Responsiblilty - What happens if we toast
> someone's data? Are we liable?
> > Should people sign a release? How do other LUGs
> handle this issue?
> 
> We need a disclaimer on the web page about the
> Installfest. A release
> probably isn't a bad idea. Anything about one in the
> Installfest HOWTO? If
> most Installfests don't have one, I'd like to avoid
> having one.
> 
> > 2. Folow up - They walk away with Linux installed,
> but now what? As Henry
> > White says "This ain't Windows any more." Where do
> they turn for help? Is
> > the club ready to receive a bunch of newbies with
> questions? Without
> > follow up the idea will persist that Linux is hard
> to use. I beleive most
> > distros only offer telephone help with the retail
> box not a downloaded ISO
> > we burned to a CD.
> 
> If the training is further along at the time we can
> promote that. In fact,
> I'd like to work that into the press announcement.
> Something like "Also
> planned is a new series of free classes about
> GNU/Linux". We can definitely
> promote the meetings, the list and Stammtisch as
> places for follow up.
> 
> Maybe we can start up the newbie meetings we've
> discussed. Should that be
> the same as the classes or something else?
> 
> What about a list of consultants from the group? I
> don't want us to imply
> that PLUG offers free 24/7 support. The list can be
> a source of advice
> and assistance, but it's not an obligation to tech
> support. Yeah, we do
> pretty good, but we need to avoid giving people the
> impression that it's a
> replacement for professional support.
> 
> > 3. Freedom - The InstallFest is a good opportunity
> to talk about freedom
> > being so close the the 4th of July. If they go way
> just thinking that
> > Linux is free (as in free beer) we haven't done
> our job.
> 
> If we have another room or can isolate part of the
> main room we can show the
> rms talk, maybe the esr talk as well. I can do a
> spiel about Free Software.
> I'm certain others can too.
> 
> > Maybe a little hand out about where to look for
> help and what PLUG can
> > offer along with an intro to software and freedom
> is in order. Spread the
> > Word!
> 
> A one or two page handout would be a good idea.
> 
> > I've got 50 Linux case badges featuring Tux and
> the
> > American flag that we can give to every successful
> > install. View USA Ver 2 here -
> http://scotgold.cyber-
> >
>
city.co.uk/acatalog/ScotGold_Catalogue_Linux_Tux_Products_2.html
> 
> Excellent.
> 
> ciao,
> 
> der.hans
> -- 
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> getoetet.
> 
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