Craig> Well up till recently I was using Gnome. With Craig> a upgrade to slack 8 I notice that Gnome added Craig> this nautilus file manager. I can't get that Craig> thing to run stable. Nautilus keeps crashing X Craig> when I try to check my html dir (which is Craig> rather large). It also has the same problem Craig> when handling a small number of large files it Craig> seems. I switched back over to KDE while I try Craig> to figure this out but the newer KDE layout is Craig> quite nice. Has anyone else had problems with Craig> Nautilus? No. (So why am I bothering to respond?) Nautilus is pretty nice for what it is. But so is Konqueror, what I've seen of it. The only reason I've dealt with Nautilus at all is because I'm writing some fundamental Linux-oriented Unix courseware in my present work and last week I had to write a whole section of a chapter describing it and how to use it, so I had to take a crash course in what it was. I exercised it pretty thoroughly, but had no problems with it other than with the appearance of strange objects I can't identify. It seems to me that such a tool is probably quite useful for beginners, but all it is is a graphical shell. I've been interfacing *nix systems for over 18 years from a shell. I use shells all the time inside of XEmacs, which is convenient for saving and tweaking the output, and the extra level of editing interface it gives you (e.g., opening multiple windows on the same shell so the top part doesn't scroll off), and also sometimes from shell windows. I certainly think that users get a much clearer understanding of what they are doing each step of the way if they do it from the shell rather than hiding it all behind a tool like Nautilus. Therefore for me, although Nautilus is an attractive and glitzy tool with a lot of interesting functionality, I don't really see myself using it very often in the long run. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ