Lynn> none of my panels started up. This is now fixed, too. I had logged off in some bizarre state such that when I logged in again the panel capplet came up, which was preventing the panels from starting. I would close the window, but the panels still wouldn't start. And there was no way to get to a logoff button. However, I figured out from a generic login the process that runs the panels, logged in as myself again, and ran that from a command line, and up they came. I logged off requesting that the state be saved, and got back on again without problems. Sometimes it just takes a little ingenuity to figure out what's going on under the surface. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ