\_ SMTP quoth Lynn David Newton on 4/11/2002 07:50 as having spake thusly: \_ \_ \_ David> By and large, you get much better response \_ David> from a user community (mailing list, irc, \_ David> news) if you come in saying: I've rtfm'd, \_ David> tried X, Y, and Z, and cut twice and it's \_ David> still too short! \_ \_ Very true, but sometimes a person is so in the dark he \_ doesn't even know quite what questions to ask. [...] Yup, there is that. I think this is covered fairly well at some point in the faqs though... I have to admit that I haven't looked at the RH faqs in quite some time. :-/ \_ I'd be surprised if it is, and even so, I'm \_ sure it's probably buried somewhere in a sea of \_ over-information. No! Over information!?! :-) \_ So if people have a legitimate question and are \_ struggling with a problem that they don't know even \_ where to look for the answer, the kind thing to do is \_ to just give them a straight pointer. Or there's the school of thought about giving the nearly correct but flawed advice and getting them to learn. I keep advocating that had I time, I'd write a seriers of books on "What not to do--the reasons". All the academia papers (among others) tell you what *to* do that was succesful. They rarely give even a passing mention to the stillborn ideas, the ideas that looked promising but got eaten by bears, ... the vast body of anti-knowledge. \_ I've asked \_ thousands of questions in my experience, and have found \_ that a simple sentence pointing me in the right \_ direction can be worth way more than an 800-page \_ dissertation on a subject. Hush, I'm counting lines in your response. :-P David