Craig S. wrote: a completely random (ok this is impossible in practice ... You CAN get truly random numbers but it requires a little specialized hardware to do it. Make your noise using an analog technique and then sample and digitize it. With a little care and not much money it is very possible. -- Kevin O'Connor "People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun ... The GNU Manifesto - Copyright (C) 1985, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc.