This is like most other lists.. lots of chatter with some marginally off topic posts. Im on other lists that are WAY worse :) We're all Linux advocates, I doubt many windows advocates are on this list, so many of us don't care for windows.. I see windows getting gradually better as it becomes more *nix like :) Before Win2k I said adamantly that 'Windows Sucks'. Since win2k it has almost reached the level of stability I expect, so I am no as down on windows anymore. JD > This is getting a little old, Microsoft made computers a house hold > product. This list may never see it, but Linux would not be as wide > spread if it was not for Microsoft. > > This will be second and last time I subscribe to this list, it has not > changed in the last 2 Years and I don't see it ever changing. > > I have seen couple of good postings, but most of them are Junk. > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Jim > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:00 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Calling all bigots > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Back to the uptime, from whence this sprouted. On that seed, XP fails > miserably. If Bill has not updated his system, its not because the > fixes were not available from the vendor. The XP vulnerabilities, and > we all know they are there, will be fixed when the vendor decides it > is profitable for their shareholders. I think that trumps any > so-called uptime stability. > > On Monday 11 March 2002 19:44, you wrote: >> When I see numbers like that, I cringe. Just looking over the >> last couple months, these kernel-related SecurityFocus BugTraq >> advisories have been issued: >> - 02.03.026 >> - 02.04.004 >> - 02.04.030 >> - 02.09.021 >> (a nice blend of information leakage, DoS attacks, and root exploits). >> >> With an uptime that large, I'm betting you have not patched your >> kernel lately :) A large uptime is not necessarily a good thing. >> >> George >> >> Bill Warner wrote: >> > #uptime >> > 5:31pm up 419 days, 21:59, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 >> > >> > talk to me when you get close to this. (and it is just not busy >> > right now becase its after 5pm) >> > >> > Bill Warner >> > >> > On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 15:51, George Toft wrote: >> > > My wife's shiny new computer, with Windows XP preloaded, had to be >> > > rebooted this weekend after an appalling 60 days of uptime. Look >> > > out Linux, it looks like Microsoft is on to something. Now all I >> > > have to do is figure out how my son can play his games without >> > > being an administrator. >> > > >> > > George >> > > ________________________________________________ >> > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail >> > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write >> > > mail. >> > > >> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - >> > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > -- >> > Bill Warner >> > Unix/Linux Admin. >> > Direct Alliance Corporation >> > >> > Company required stuff: >> > >> > Contents are Direct Alliance Corporation Confidential >> > >> > This message is for the designated recipient(s) only and contains >> > Direct Alliance Corporation privileged and confidential information. >> > If you have received it in error, please notify the sender >> > immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this email is >> > prohibited. >> > >> > ________________________________________________ >> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail >> > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. >> > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> ________________________________________________ >> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail >> doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > - -- > Jim > > Freedom is worth preserving > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > > iQA/AwUBPI1vLisk3ywszI1FEQJ8ZwCgkIwguN+Qoz0wo2VKvFN5L46SKdIAoJiG > 2F5zK5DPIqyu8mEfauJUhHFO > =IY3r > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Your reasoning is excellent -- it's only your basic assumptions that are wrong. :) meeting, n.: An assembly of people coming together to decide what person or department not represented in the room must solve a problem.~ /usr/bin/fortune