LOL, I got your point but I couldn't resist. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Dallas Helquist Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:28 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Router-Gateway-Firewall solution for less than 150?? Heh, guess I should have been more clear on "big vendors" - cisco, checkpoint etc. -dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Sutherland" To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: RE: Router-Gateway-Firewall solution for less than 150?? > Well actually there is one product I remember seeing at > Fried Electronics (Baseline location) for several > hundred dollars that did every thing firewall, proxy, > web server, mail server, etc.. Has any one here > ever tried out one of these all in one appliances? > Sorry I can't remember the name of it now. > > -Ryan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Dallas > Helquist > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:04 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Router-Gateway-Firewall solution for less than 150?? > > > Others have stated this already, but here it is in one email: > > If what you are looking for is strictly a firewall (something to > block/filter incoming and outgoing traffic), you should look for something > that does only that. Adding other things to this "firewall" - no matter how > convienent they may be - is just asking for trouble. Ever wonder why the > big vendors don't sell firewall products that are also the company > mail/web/file server? They aren't stupid. > > Now, the above rant aside...most home users want more functionality from > their firewall device than just packet filtering. I use mine for web, > email, samba etc. It's a dual 133 with a few nics in it - total cost > including hub was $40.00US. I put redhat7.2 on it, cleaned up the rc3.d > directory, set up a simple iptables ruleset. Instant firewall, albeit not > very secure. I also don't run anything behind it besides my home > machines..and everything there is easy to recover. > > Windows has some alternatives as well that I have seen used with a fair > amount of success: > > wingate - www.wingate.net > internet gate - www.maccasoft.com/igate/ > > And there are more, though most seem to work around via being a proxy or > transperant proxy. I believe that e-smith does this as well - transparently > proxies everything through squid. > > Anyways - good luck. > > -dallas > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post > to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss