I really liked your presentation last time Bob George. I wouldn't mind listening to ya again :) (I freeze up talking in front of a group hehe) I would love to hear more about the firewall distributions that Jim mentioned, or maybe a security demonstration. If I can remember right I thought you said something about computer security being your profession. Maybe you could go through the measures you take to protect against a compromise, or to show what you do after a system has been compromised. I don't know if you are familiar with trinux (trinux.sourceforge.net) but that also looks pretty interesting. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/