I had some trouble locating a good upgrade doc for these three beasts. Linuxdoc has some nice writeups on installing these utilities from scratch, but I already have working compilers and libraries. Hopefully someone with prior experience can help. I am asking before leaping this time because I really dorked my system up the last time I tried this. First I am not worried about RPM dependencies, I don't use them. GlibC looks pretty straight forward. Just download the tarball, unpack and install. What I am wondering is should I try a test install before ripping out the current libraries, or is this pretty straightforward? Or does the new binary just replace parts of the library? Do I have to upgrade GCC one step at a time. I am currently using 2.91.66. The upgrade path seems to only be able to use the previous released version of gcc. Hopefully I can just download the 3.0.4 tarball, unpack it and install. binutils I haven't read much on yet. I spent last night reading and downloading the GlibC and GCC tarballs. I have heard that when updating GlibC that GCC and binutils get updated also. Craig S.