I don't think criminalizing stupidity is the answer. We all do stupid things. Who's to decide which decisions are stupid and which are criminally stupid? (Now making a stupid decision and not admitting it to the investors might qualify to a regulatory board.) If they want some really bad CEO for the name, great. Hire them. Put them in the f**king mail room and let everyone know you've got Mr. Blah of AT&T/Enron/Microsoft/Colgate-Palmolive fame working for you. But don't let these people into places where they can direct the company until they work their way back up. They obviously missed a lesson the last time (if they even had to work their way up, nepotism and the good ol' buddy network are alive and well). Todd Hought wrote: > > Yep, the problem seems to be that no matter how big of mistake any CEO > makes, they will still make money. Which leads to bad CEO's getting > practically praised for making bad decisions. If I gave my dog a plate > full of fresh bacon every time she pooped on the carpet, I would expect > much the same results. > > The REALLY stupid part is for some reason, there are companies out there > who are already probably chomping at the bit to get a 'high-profile' CEO > like Bob Allen of AT&T on THEIR executive team, just so that they can have > CEO with a big name. Nevermind the fact that his track record as a CEO > sucks like a Hoover, he's got a big name, right? that's all that should > count, right? > > Wrong. > > I've seen so many bad CEO's run companies into the ground, I should get a > freakin' medal for not hitting them with a LART on sight. Bad CEO's will > continue to line their pockets at our expense until one of them ACTUALLY > gets punished for making decisions that an average garden slug would have > the better sense not to. And I'm not talking fines, people with money, > will always have money for little piddly $10 million dollar fines, > especially when they've got more socked away than any of us will ever > know. I'm talking PRISON, Sheriff Joe style. Bad CEO's are criminals, no > different than some doofus who goes in and robs a fedrally-insured bank, > except they rob people, REAL people. > > I think that everything happening in business (Enron, etc) should serve as > a warning to bad CEO's everywhere. You can only trample on the employees > that are trying to succeed just as much as you for so long. I'm not a > superstitous or religious man, but Karma can be a serious bitch, and I > hope that the good St. Karma shows the CEO's just as much compassion and > respect that they have shown to their employees. > > -T > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, George Toft wrote: > > > Hmm... > > > > CEO gets $4 million severence (Bob Allen at AT&T) for upsetting > > the Board of Directors. > > > > Joe FTE gets 4 months severence and $205/week for 12 weeks > > (friend at Amex) for upsetting his manager. > > > > Who's the idiot again? :) > > > > George > > > > > > Digital Wokan wrote: > > > > > > I wouldn't hold my breath. I think businesses will continue to do > > > really stupid things for as long as CEO's get stupidly large bonuses > > > when they get kicked out for their overly stupid decisions. Companies > > > shouldn't have to pay management to go the hell away and not darken > > > their door. Let them collect the $205/week unemployment like the rest > > > of us. (Adjust for whatever state the idiot lives in.) > > > > > > John Kloian wrote: > > > > > > > > I firmly believe in deregulation, but the boom in the CLEC market and > > > > their practices seem to have been a death sentence. Its really funny, > > > > take a voice T-1 for example. Qwest is forced by the federal tariffs and > > > > the Arizona Corporation commission to sell it at a certain price, however > > > > MCI and AT&T or any other CLEC can sell it for upto 35% less than the > > > > ILEC and they do all the time. Now granted the CLEC losses money on every > > > > deal, but they figured they get vertical sales from the customer. this > > > > has been going on for some time. Plus the CLEC's by billions of dollar of > > > > service from each other. this looks good on the books, but the minute one > > > > decalres bankruptcy everyone suffers as a result. this is what we are > > > > seeing happen right now. When Global Crossing declared bankruptcy they > > > > force XO to right off 7.35 billion on their books, obviously that hurt and > > > > is one of the reasons XO is about to file chapter 11. > > > > > > > > In the end this shakedown will probably be a good thing, but we'll more > > > > than likely be stuck with one ILEC until some new players pop up. > > > > Hopefully the business practices will change slightly.