Esteemed subscribers, Are there any XEmacs (or GNU Emacs) users out there? If so, maybe you can help me figure out something? I haven't read news groups since before I left Motorola last July. When I was there I rarely did the last two or three years, because we had an incredibly bogus NNTP server that was down more often than it was up, and I got out of the habit. It's time to start from scratch. BTW, I'm on cox.net. I'm having trouble getting Gnus to kick off correctly. The NNTP server seems to be functioning. running getlist -h news.west.cox.net active returns a listing of over 55,000 news groups, so it's out there standing ready and waiting to serve me. I had to do that as root, though. I don't know if the fact that I can't query the server in that particular way as non-root makes any difference. I deleted all references to anything having to do with Gnus in my startups (and think I did a thorough job), removed my .newsrc, and commented everything out of ~/.gnus, except this: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.west.cox.net")) (setq gnus-default-subscribed-newsgroups "rec.running") because the Info documentation seems to suggest it's a good idea. When I run M-x gnus, the startup window with the Gnu on it pops up, but it just hangs forever. It does so when I try to start it with xemacs -q, too. Does anyone know offhand if there's something obvious I'm overlooking? I can worry about customizing, configuring, subscribing, and all that once I get it to cough up some news for me. The irony is that this is the sort of question for comp.emacs.xemacs, but I can't ask it there because I can't get to the news! Thanks for any insights. BTW, for reference, I've been using forms of Emacs since 1987, so it's not a case of someone horsing with software he doesn't know how to use. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ