First I wouldn't use that name. But I like the idea of having gamming boxes up. 1) it would let people see what kind of kewl games you can play on a Linux box. 2). It would be a good source of income. Set up Quake / Myth II / Free Civ Tournaments. Let long time users save their profiles and / or bring in some from home. Focus on being a kewl place for geeks to hang out. Have lots of geek gear (ie t-shirts, hats, mugs)on sale. I would love to have a place like that to hang out. If you also *sold* linux games and software that would be kewl (but I'd bet you'd make more money off of all the coffee / gaming I'd do). Hardware I'm not sure how much you would make off of that. (I'd be willing to shell out a few extra bucks for something that was certified to work with Linux. But I don't need to buy hardware all that often.). My gut says you'd do better to have it on the east side of town (maybe near campus) but the fact that I live in mesa may have something to do with that. Set up a internet cafe running only Linux boxes. So that the AOL crowd could find out how easy it is to run Linux. Let PLUG (and other LUGs) host meetings there that way you'd have a constant stream of new people checking it out. Carl P.