I have never met a wealthy entrepreneur who could meet the definition of 
'honest' that they demand/expect in resumes, from job applicants, etc.

It's not a matter of honesty.  If you believe that I submit that you are both 
nieve and subject to a false consciousness imposed by capitalist 
Episcopalians on bourgeois Baptists and Methodists.  

I recommend watching owners, management, marketing, and sales to see what is 
really meant by terms like "integrety" and "honesty".  These are self-serving 
terms that tend to translate into (1) "don't get caught" and (2) never be so 
stupid as to enunciate item #1 in the terms that that fool Trent (or 
Machiavelli) just did herein.

What I find interesting is that most millionaries, being consumate 
politicians,  say that their _integrity_ was a primary contributor to their 
success.  What I find *amazing* is that they honestly believe they are men 
(almost all of them are men) of moral integrity. [See the Millionaire Mind.  
I reccomend the book even if I don't quite know how to interpret it, except 
to expect never to be a millionaire.]

On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:33, you wrote:
> It will ALWAYS come back to haunt you eventually if you are not honest
> across the board.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Toft" <george@georgetoft.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Mensan seeks work
>
>
> I second that.  We just lost a guy because he claimed to have a Bachelor's
> Degree when he did not.  It only took them a week to figure it out.  He
> was a contractor for six months, so he knew his stuff.  When there is
> an abundant supply of talent, you can be choosy.  When there is a scarcity
> of talent, you take whatever comes your way.  You know where we are right
> now. .
> .
>
> George
>
> "Dr. Ghastly" wrote:
> > Uh, considering the work your looking for, I wouldn't consider lying. The
> > company I work for does EXENSIVE background checks.
> >
> > ******************************************************************
> > Once you start down the dark path, forever will it
> > dominate your destiny, consume you it will...
> > ******************************************************************
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trent Shipley" <tcshipley@earthlink.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Mensan seeks work
> >
> > > I've seen really high numbers about lying on resumes.  I suspect that
> >
> > people
> >
> > > usually get away with it.  Of course, if you don't then it can really
>
> bite
>
> > > you in the ass--especially if you claim to be an experienced surgeon or
> > > litigator.
> > >
> > > > Actually, another alternative is to lie about your
> > > > experience if you really know your stuff, but that usually comes
>
> around
>
> > to
> >
> > > > bite you in the ass.
> > > > ~M
> > >
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