well, I am not sure if this is a system wide thing or not. cox e-mail appears to be down. I've seen no new e-mails through since 10 AM thursday morning. I've just spent an hour helping a tier 3 admin troubleshoot this one and he's still scratching his head over it. anyone else got a problem here? Technomage ______________________________________________ Get FREE email at http://www.qwestdexmail.com!