Hi David, David> If you believe in certification I'm aware there are arguments pro and con on this issue. I've be no means decided to try to acquire an LPI, but am just investigating what would be involved. David> then LPI is David> the way to go. It is the ONLY certification David> developed by the Linux community for the David> community. Good to hear this. That's worth something. David> http://lpi.org/ I do recommend studying hard David> as the test is not trivial, you will not pass David> it on book learning alone. If you have not David> been admining Linux for a while it is a VERY David> challenging test. Thanks for the heads up. I'm glad to hear that. It makes the certification worth more. I've worked exclusively on Unix systems since 1984, and Linux is what I've run on my desktop both at work and run here at home for the last three years. I also have a Mac. Yo no hablo Windows. I worked for 18 years as a software engineer for Motorola Computer Group before I got laid off on July 31. I've administered servers at work, and also my own desktops, but haven't done a lot of sophisticated stuff. This experience does not in itself make me an expert, ready to go in and pass the LPI without studying. There is much I could stand to learn, and would like to, now that I'm in the job market. Thank you for the pointer to the test. Can you tell me how one normally goes about acquiring the training necessary to pass it? It's one thing to know "all about Linux", and another to be prepared for a specific test. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~lnewton